Sunday, September 21, 2008

Anti school corporal punishment – First attempts at viable equal protection and cruel punishment constitutional challenges -- NEW!


http://nospank.net/n-u88.htm

For a more comprehensive treatment click on: Corporal Punishment in Schools: Economic, Liable, Practical, Ethical, Constitutional?


[3/17/09]
Would we antis know how to answer this: Suppose Oliver had asked for more five times already this week (there isn’t any more to go around; “cannot” have kids constantly coming up front for no reason); suppose he had already been sanctioned with time outs; suppose now he was faced with enduring either two time outs or a beating – his choice. What could be wrong with that?

Answer: there is no compelling need to keep Oliver from coming back every day [or a school child from being tardy every day], as long as his actions did not lead all the other kids don’t start following him every day, making the lunch room impossible to operate [or repeated tardiness somehow making a school room impossible to operate].

No compelling need = no legitimate override of equal protection of the law from being beaten with a stick designed to inflict the maximum amount of unbearable pain.

If Oliver were bringing down the house or broke a bunch of plates or stalked and seriously beat a smaller boy the state (or private school) could arguably claim a compelling interest in corporal punishment. This is sort of the equivalent to justifiable defense (what physicists might call a unified theory).

Question of permanent damage: adults are protected from armed assault, without any need to claim permanent damage, but for the hellishness experience itself. Battered wives do not need to cite permanent damage.
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Sovereignty: acting “in loco parentis” is just a legal mechanism to confer the ability to mange children. Acting “in loco parentis” does not confer the parent’s so-called sovereignty over the children to the teacher – does not reduce students to being virtual slaves who may be beaten at will (may even a parent legally spank a child for nothing?).

Even the parents’ sovereignty itself is a legal mechanism to protect families from untoward intrusion from the state (the teacher is the state – no one to protect from the state; if parents have sovereignty, how can the state’s extension of parental authority to the teacher lead to the teacher overriding the parents’ will not to beat the child?) – the child is never truly a “slave” per se.

If the parent or guardian who has (or is supposed to have) a supportive relationship with the child loses control, the child tends to think nobody cares about it and literally (!) stops caring about itself (easier to imagine with a badly neglected 12 year old than with a merely out of parents’ control 18 year old but just as true) – leaving it prey to every street temptation: robbery and burglary!

So, even if antis don’t approve of corporal punishment at home the state must stay out of it because the consequences of the parent losing control are literally catastrophic for the child. Anyway how many parents practice the ritual beatings done in schools (holes in the paddle!)? How many parents have a menu of swats for each offense like Winona, AK? How many kids have trouble sitting down come to school from home?!

Now, if parents can be liable to prosecution under normal assault statutes if they strap a child for nothing -- for instance, to mistakenly show the child they legally can -- then, teachers who beat a child for less than compelling need -- for instance, possessing tobacco --should be considered liable under normal assault statutes, even if the teacher has to confiscate tobacco from the same student every day, because while it is a nice rule – which may or may not accomplish anything –breaking the rule even every day never leads to catastrophic consequences. Give the student as many detentions as you please, but do not step over what would be a felony assault line with anyone who was not a minor student.

With the above, antis have a nice meaty legal topic for discussion on the talking head shows, not just bleeding hearts and bruised bottoms. Progressive talk shows would love to do the topic but they may have needed more material for discussion then the antis had up until now.

[2/2/09]
Allowing corporal punishment in schools can be argued as making an exception to equal protection – requiring a compelling state interest (we are talking what could otherwise be felony assault here) to override the protection?

To work out what might pass the compelling interest test, let us take an upside-down look at the Oliver scene (“More?”). We antis would not be nearly as horrified if Oliver had done something egregiously wrong, like cold bloodedly beating up a smaller kid or sneaking into the kitchen and breaking up a bunch of dishes. We mostly might not approve anyway – “find another punishment” – but most of us would not get worked up enough to organize against the sort.

To meet the test of compelling interest a student should either have done something egregious – being late repeatedly or smoking in the parking lot does not qualify as wrong-wrong; prevention of such hardly not qualify as a compelling state interest – or be doing something that is chronically and seriously damaging to himself or the school that therefore must be stopped.

The latter prescription might possibly be fulfilled by a seventh or eighth grader perpetually doing the “terrible twos” in the classroom, perpetually disrupting class and perpetually making impossible his own education – relatively rare instances are cited along with the supposed CP resolution. Ideally, law could allow one-time, limited punishment – only after a judicial hearing agreed that parameters are fulfilled. Courts are actually very well equipped to deal with just such questions – perhaps only in minutes. Leaving interpretation to the school would invite the kind of interpretation that cops chronically bring the Fourth Amendment, leaving students rights less than fully protected; and leaving the school open to criminal prosecution if it erred in punishing wrongly.

Ditto, for any application of corporal punishment in high school. To meet compelling interest it would have to be done only on a solely individual basis; no preset formula.
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Let’s deal for a moment with the timing of the emotionally dependent stage in children, which has implications for both equal protection and cruel and unusual punishment aspects of the issue.

Boys are in the emotionally dependent stage, for all practical purposes as much as if they are 12 years old, until they reach 18 1/2 – at least in my observation – at which point their emotional dependent stage switches off like a light switch over one week’s time (from 12 to an adult) – again, as closely as I can observe. Girls should switch off a year or year and a half sooner – I don’t have enough personal observations to be exact.

My observations were related to juvenile delinquency. If a kid did not think anybody cared about him – wrong about half the time -- he literally did not care about himself – meaning no penalty could deter him from crime. Strangely enough boys who were merely out of control of weak but committed guardians (during what NYC police call the “pissing vinegar stage”) got every bit as hysterically alienated as the worst neglected kids. Oddly, again, 5 or 6 weeks of intensive attention would turn the craziest kid around (unlike the 2 or 3 decades of positive socialization needed to retire the paranoia underlying heroin or serious alcohol addiction) – no longer out of his own control – again, strangely, the change comes all in one day at the very end “invasion of the body snatchers “syndrome”) – just to make this practical discovery available to anyone reading this. After 18 1/2 they may have become I-don’t-want-to-work-aholics from a youth of no work or no school – cannot face life at hard labor.
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Now for cruel and unusual punishment plain and simple. There are voluminous reports of early grammar school children being permanently damaged (permanently afraid to go to any school, “not the same kid”) after being beaten. For these kids the verdict is certainly cruel and unusual punishment – plain and simple.

Now for cruel and unusual punishment by proportionality. Most students who are whipped in school while in the emotionally dependent stage maintain very friendly attitudes toward the adult – as long as he is not usually going out of his way to be a bad guy. Post the emotionally dependent stage they may turn to resenting or even hating the teacher for life. They don’t think of the infraction as wrong-wrong (e.g., repeated lateness) in adult perspective – they don’t think of the infraction at all (it is so meager). All they very typically think of is of the person “who beat them like they were an animal.”

Many equate the beating to rape even immediately. Legions of parents are angrily up in arms over what they take for virtual “rape.” Many students who are never beaten themselves are profoundly upset over the beating of other students.
Here the subjective is objective.

If it is rape to you it is rape. It is a factor of innate social feelings like the switching off of the emotionally dependent stage.

I would go much further and speculate that most of the horror of corporal punishment in the school may come from the aspect of being beaten for nothing wrong-wrong – what makes it virtual “rape.”

Topsy-turvy (Oliver style) again: I speculate if a teacher needed to take three whacks to join the local volunteer-fireman’s fraternity, he wouldn’t fret over it, he could sleep the night before, he’d take his three shots of unbearable pain and bear it. But, if he had to take three whacks from the school administration (strain you imaginations please folks) for turning in his pay hours late too many times he would go out of his mind, couldn’t sleep the night before, feel ten times worse at the time he got hit and feel like he was “raped” for years after.

That’s what I think. I’m sure this feeling fits many and probably not most students (how horribly I would feel). I suspect the kid who doesn’t seem to take paddling seriously is the one who doesn’t feel the social aspect (meaning beating is mostly effective on those who feel "raped?").

In any case the never the same kid aspect for young grammar school students and the “rape” horror aspect for too many, probably most high school students raises the proportionality concept of the cruel and unusual constitutional prohibition – and makes the case for not “raping” students over what amounts to office management matters very convincingly I think, if only for a limited number of students (we have no way to tell who they are in advance) who will certainly be permanently traumatized a beating for doing nothing wrong-wrong.

ADDENDUM
If corporal punishment is "optional" as it is in many institutions, then, by definition there must be no COMPELLING need -- overriding equal protection rights (if not humane policy). If there is no compelling need in one constitution there is no compelling need in others.

Optional above was in quotes because (outside) circumstances can coerce a student into taking a beating they never would otherwise agree to. In a Tru video a girl reportedly asks for a break because she is sick and cannot do detention Friday afternoon and cannot do it Saturday or she will miss her Junior (I believe) prom -- and opts to take a beating she may never have been willing to otherwise. A boy needs to go to work and so takes a beating instead of Saturday detention.

Her reported "offense": being caught with a cigarette pack -- his: being barely late for class for the sixth time; on a large campus he took a little too long because he talked to a girl (notify Congress!). I read somewhere that she became class president the next year -- that doesn't sound like an infant terrible.

Don't believe that a beating does less damage than a suspension. Ten years from now, a three day suspension will not have any effect on your life. Spending four years in an institution in which you may be beaten for what amounts to "office management" purposes may plausibly permanently affect your outlook on life for the worse. Paddling supporters love to cite how it did permanently affect them -- usually amounting to adopting a more obsequious attitude towards authority; which can be read as being less confident and assertive about their place in the adult world, which is not where we want our precious children to go these days.


FOR MY FINAL THOUGHTS ON SCHOOL CP (much shorter), LOOK HERE:

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

I read something about this same topic that the teachers at http://teacherswhopaddle.wordpress.com/ thought was funny that someone remembered their paddling as traumatic.

These elementary teachers also have a link on their blogroll to a site called spankwithlove whose logo is a photo of a naked child's buttocks with a heart around it. Their is also a link to a site to purchase paddles.

These teachers and schools ignore all the child health organizations that oppose corporal punishment.

They ignore studies showing higher dropout rates and higher incarceration rates in paddling states. Also, the non-paddling states have higher graduation rates and higher ACT scores.

Schools that paddle are not using the positive discipline programs that are successful on the rest of the country an fir some reason don't seem to care to try.

Denis Drew said...

Anonymous,
The "teacherswhopaddle" web site has the earmarks of a spanking fetish website, plus, since it concerns children, the strong scent of a disguised pedophile site as well.

Way back when newsgroups were in vogue I visited (adult) spanking newsgroups a couple of times. What struck me each time was the minute detail in which the spanking incident stories were spelled out. They made such a ritual out of the spankings that it suggested to me that the fetishists were afraid of intimacy and wanted to be distracted by the details (while they do a quick one eye at being intimate) and then quick back to the ritual.

The school spanking stories on both sites you mention are equally attentive to every detail of the ritual. PS. The "female" teachers don't have to be female either.

The linked site also had dragged out ritual stories -- and its captions for different categories of reports (videos, pictures, etc.) seemed much too enthusiastic for a genuine policy site ("X# new!" tags on categories).

The linked site also had multiple drawings of bare bottom pubescent or prepubescent girls -- something I have seen before on web sites that looked very much like disguised web sites. The two sites you mentioned have a lot more material of "socially redeeming" value than the disguised sites I viewed before -- maybe disguised sites have to keep their heads further down in the era of Michael Jackson and endless stories of abusive teachers, clergy, etc.

Denis Drew said...

Anonymous,
Policy:
All the theories explaining the necessity of corporal punishment in school only seem to apply in practice to an arbitrarily small segment of students: boys fifth through eighth grade. Under fifth -- and all girls -- we are too sensitive. Over eight grade we are too respectful. At least that is the way is was in the Catholic school system I was brought up in.

Some of the purposelessness of corporal punishment as a punishment of last resort is that students who mess up the most because they are the future "generals" who go their own way the most will turn out alright in the end as long as they are not spoiled, are sanctioned with detention or something normal.

The worst self-defeating aspect with corporal punishment as last resort is that the students fail to accomplish tasks over and over because they are serious paranoids (the always present PERCENTAGE who are potential serious alcoholics or heroin addicts) -- fail because they do not get normal level of satisfaction from accomplishing tasks assigned. This is because they are always doing to satisfy others (that world of critical supervisors: you and me) and never doing anything to satisfy themselves (more on this below).

You can get a paranoid to perform in the short run with torture, sure -- but in adult life where they cannot be beaten, they will be if anything more paranoid for the beatings and even less likely to perform well. Beat them enough and you may get a violent paranoid (some).
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Around 1970 -- while in everyday contact with serious street junkies (living in Manhattan during the wave) I was on a temporary job where we all agreed that the job was fun, but we also agreed that the job was no fun when the boss was there, but we also agreed that he was the nicest, sweetest, easy going boss anybody could have, but we all agreed that when he was there we were doing the job for him and not for us and that ruined the fun.

Being in day to day contact with the most paranoid people I have ever met (never tell a junkie who is nodding that he is high or he will insist that he hasn't slept for three days, the next three times you meet him he will keep on insisting, no exaggeration) -- I made the connection. The heroin (or the alcohol -- every street junkie I've ever known was an alkie first) insulated the poor dope from us supervisors and he could enjoy the normal satisfactions we all take for granted without drugs. Tough to tell these guys to just say no; that's like telling them not to live.

Personal note: I used to miss 40 days a year in Cardinal Hayes High School in the Bronx ('61) and claimed to be president of the lost weekend club on the basis of seniority.

Question: Was I a general or a paranoid?

Answer: I hated every second of school -- or being inside anywhere. I was missing 50 days a year in the Dept. of Buildings 15 years and showing up even later (no detention -- no management either: government). Then I got my drivers license at the age of 32 and began taxi driving 84 hours/wk. I was always an outdoor boy. :-)

Denis Drew said...

Anonymous,
LAWS PROHIBITING PARENT FROM SPANKING:

My experience with juvenile delinquents is that kids who are simply out of control of parents feel just as hysterically alienated as kids who are seriously neglected - and just as fully subject to feeling nobody cares about them (just as fully) in which case they literally will not care about themselves: ergo no penalty can deter them from getting in the most serious trouble.

This is true for the entire emotionally dependent stage which in boys ends around 18 1/2 years old. See the whole explanation at: http://onhowtopage.blogspot.com/2008/09/sure-cure-for-juvenile-delinquency-how.html

I would not spank. It may be a bad idea in most (even all?) cases -- but -- if that is the only way a parent knows how to control their child then the state organs (heaven forbid social workers; half the probation officers I dealt with with my Bronx kiddies were the greatest saints; the other half were the nuttiest bunch I have ever known) should absolutely leave it alone.

Bureaucrats out of spanking: both parents and social workers. Parents these days rarely line a kid up for a prolonged torture session with an instrument of unbearable pain like a (brutal bureaucrat) teacher.

Patricia said...

I have read that the higher the rate of corporal punishment in the homes and schools, the higher is the rate of violence in the country.

Anonymous said...

Hello: This email is from Renee of teacherswhopaddle. You have the right to your opinions just as my blog does. However, with rights come responsibilities and your comparing legal c.p. to the violent crime of RAPE is way out of bounds. A dear friend of mine in college was the victim of date rape. I am giving your blog an ultimatum: Either remove the post that compares legal c.p. to the crime of RAPE or issue a new post apologizing to the victims of RAPE. If no SINCERE change is detected on your blog 2 days from this comment, I will inform the web sites that advocate for rape victims about the post -and you will certainly hear from them!

Sincerely,
Renee

Denis Drew said...

Actually Renee,
If my constitutional theory is correct that overriding equal protection of the law -- from assault with a weapon designed to give unbearable pain -- without a COMPELLING reason -- IOW to punish actions that would justify calling the police or to quell behavior that chronically makes it impossible to teach -- is NOT legal.

IOW, corporal punishment is NOT legal for 99+% of the reasons it is inflicted IMO.

Bringing a pack of cigarettes to school or being a minute late for the sixth time are not compelling concerns in the real adult world -- where we don't take a beating for rolling through a stop sign or coming late through a red light. Feel guilty about rolling through a stop sign? Does Congress hold hearings on chronic minute late tardies?

Your attempt at intimidation just reinforces my suspicions (stated in my comment above) that teacherswhopaddle is nothing more than a below the radar pervert site -- though well meaning people may post or comment there.

Denis Drew said...

Renee (if that is your true name, and not Bill or George),
Trolls maketh the precise thinker, too -- thank you.

Your comment on date rape triggered this connection: date rape is every bit as criminal as stranger rape -- but probably (I am a man; I don't know for sure) not as painful or permanently traumatizing as stranger rape (depending on how much of a stranger the date might be of course).

That gives me a comparison to make between the hellish trauma and pain of a school beating and, say, taking three shots to get into a fraternity -- which my post theorized would be much less hellish -- cannot spell out exactly why (yet -- it took me 28 years to figure out why we have such difficulty respecting unborn life: because we cannot picture a personal identity for an individual unborn child -- a pure midbrain thing).
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Here is an ADDENDUM I just added to the original post -- as I allow my new approach to mature to the point I can push it:
If corporal punishment is "optional" as it is in many institutions, then, by definition there must be no COMPELLING need -- overriding equal protection rights (if not humane policy). If there is no compelling need in one constitution there is no compelling need in others.

Optional above was in quotes because (outside) circumstances can coerce a student into taking a beating they never would otherwise agree to. In a Tru video a girl reportedly asks for a break because she is sick and cannot do detention Friday afternoon and cannot do it Saturday or she will miss her Junior (I believe) prom -- and opts to take a beating she may never have been willing to otherwise. A boy needs to go to work and so takes a beating instead of Saturday detention.

Her reported "offense": being caught with a cigarette pack -- his: being barely late for class for the sixth time; on a large campus he took a little too long because he talked to a girl (notify Congress!). I read somewhere that she became class president the next year -- that doesn't sound like an infant terrible.

Don't believe that a beating does less damage than a suspension. Ten years from now, a three day suspension will not have any effect on your life. Spending four years in an institution in which you may be beaten for what amounts to "office management" purposes may plausibly permanently affect your outlook on life for the worse. Paddling supporters love to cite how it did permanently affect them -- usually amounting to adopting a more obsequious attitude towards authority; which can be read as being less confident and assertive about their place in the adult world, which is not where we want our precious children to go these days.

Renee said...

Hey! I do not need to defend MYSELF from your s***! But you?... As to RAPE -How did you get to be such an "expert" anyway? RAPE IS RAPE! So don't you dare try to make distinctions! Also, I dare you to visit a rape-crisis center -You will learn a lot about real life RAPE victims. As far as my blog teacherswhopaddle.worpress.com is concerned -I doubt that you have ever even seen it! And to prove otherwise -Tell me how many paddlings Michelle has given in her career? Finally, your legal arguments were LOST way back in 1977 with Ingraham v. Wright -from a much more LIBERAL court.

I guess you are just spinning in the wind.

So there!

Renee

Denis Drew said...

Renee (if that is your real name -- you sound kind of aggressive for a girl teacher),
I think the "production values", if you will, of the stories on teacherswhopaddle are so identical to those of fetish spanking sites that that any real teachers who publish these stories should be investigated by their school administrations pronto.

Some bona fide experts -- not my cab driver self -- could render their judgments as to the fetish quality and that in turn could justify using the time of some investigative agencies to make sure said teachers are not molesters. I'm not say expert opinions would establish anything close to probable cause for law enforcement to search the teachers' home computers -- but it might justify the schools searching the teachers' school computers.

Renee said...

Hey! Not only are you an ignoramus but you are a sexist jerk too! I guess you think we teachers are all just a bunch of wall fowers who just take your abuse!

WRONG! And you will find out soon enough! Teachers like us will not be the only people you hear from!

As to our blog, if YOU or anyone else looks to fill their fetish -Prepare to be disappointed! We do everything according to policy.

Probably didn't expect h*** from four southern female teachers, huh?

Joke's on YOU!
Renee

Anonymous said...

Policies are changing. As a mother of FIVE SONS and also a victim of rape and abuse, and having gained an education in the field of Early Childhood Education, myself, I can strongly argue that spanking and corporal punishment is of absolutely NO USE! It is an outdated way of thinking and of disciplining. I agree that spending time one-on-one with a troubled or troublesome child will GREATLY improve his/her behavior as opposed to spanking and or humiliating that child. It is my opinion, and observation, and experience, that spanking and humiliation does more damage to the child, both in the short term and the long term. It makes no difference where we come from. (By the way, I am southern as well. My sons are of different nationalities and of various ages.) At no age is corporal punishment acceptable. It is called assault. If anyone ever puts a hand on my children to hit them, I hope that the same pain and humiliation will be inflicted upon them so that they may know (or maybe remember) what it's like to be weaker, and afraid, and helpless, to the blows of someone much larger than themselves.
To teachers who spank: Go back to school and do some research on the effects of spanking and corporal punishment. Come out of the Dark Ages already!!! The children of our future need you to teach them how to be civil, not that violence is the answer! Haven't we ALL had enough violence? Take some time to get to know your students, get to the bottom of their problems, get to know them as a person, not as a paycheck, not as an outlet to release your frustrations. Take some parenting classes. Get involved with the family. Do something positive. Be a leader. Doesn't that sound like a more mature and rational way to solve a problem? Don't we suspend a child from school if he hits another? And what about when the child hits a teacher? Don't we teach them that hitting is wrong?! Doesn't it seem that spanking a child is actually reinforcing the idea that hitting is o.k. as long as you feel justified?! What kind of example does that set?!

Renee said...

Hello again: First, if you do not want your children subject to c.p., then just opt them out! No educator, including myself, wishes to go against the parents. Second, as to the contributors of my blog, we are all in graduate programs for Master's degrees. Third, two of us are moms with one "on the way," so we understand how you feel. Just remember, if you choose to opt out, that is for c.p. -not suspension.

Last, the original reason for my comment was the sick comparison of the violent crime of RAPE with legal c.p. Regardless of your opinion of c.p.,we should ALL agree that there is NO comparing RAPE to c.p. and any attempt to do otherwise degrades both the victims of RAPE and the so called anti-c.p. movement.

Sincerely,
Renee (Editor)
teacherswhopaddle

Denis Drew said...

If Renee (perhaps not her real name - or gender) is...
...either...
the vitriolic, revengeful butch she comes across as on line...
...or...
...the child beating fetish I suspect she (he?) really is (you can't go to jail for what you're thinking -- or only talk about)...
...I would not want her within a mile of school children with a paddle!

Renee et. al. said...

Hello just one more time: Hey Drew -Do you ever read your own comments? They are pathetic. I guess you just can't handle four young female teachers from Dixie,huh? Brother, I wouldn't want you for my spokesperson if I had an anti-c.p. organization.

Your rant would be funny if it wasn't so PATHETIC!

JUST DO YOURSELF ONE FAVOR: Stay away from RAPE CRISIS CENTERS -Those RAPE VICTIMS do not need to see or hear from you!

Renee, Jenny, Wendy, Michelle
teacherswhopaddle.wordpress.com

Denis Drew said...

Leaving aside individual cases of teen girls who say they feel like they were raped after a beating teacher (especially by a male)...

...rape connotes violation and even people who are burglarized or robbed at gun point or have their car broken into talk of feeling violated.

A paddle -- invented to keep slaves working after being beaten by spreading the impact while still delivering searing pain -- HAS THE SAME PHYSICS, as in mass multiplied by the square of the speed (if you go twice as fast you go twice as far, four times the energy needed) AS A CAT OF NINE TAILS. To put it another way the same muscle delivers the same amount to force with paddle or tails.

Being beaten by another human being who is trying -- and succeeding -- in giving you unbearable pain can reasonably be compared to being raped even if it is not fully as unbearable -- it remains a terribly traumatic violation...

...especially for what amounts to office management. I don't care how many times a child is late or possess tobacco it does not justify visiting unbearable trauma on the child.

The Navy gave up the cat long ago because it was inhuman -- and the Navy had the most serious adult business to conduct, the defense of the nation and saving lives -- not school kid stuff.

THIS KIND OF SCHOOL HORROR SCENE HAS TO END IN AMERICA (borrowed from a forum discussion on the TruTV episode):
"...I do remember a few times in homeroom when kids were called to the office,and I was there for an early dismissal or something like that and they were standing outside his office waiting to be paddled.There was complete silence and you could hear a pin drop with the terror on there faces waiting to be called in.I would not of traded places with any of them and I am sure they wish they had an other option.When they went in,there was like a 30 second pause then you would hear 3 loud whacks.No one would say anything and you just waited to see the look on there faces.Most of the time they cried,but some where about too and waited until they left the office.There were no grins on there faces and I dont think they would say it wasnt that bad.They paddled you and they paddled you really hard.I asked one of my close friends about that because he was one of the victims at that time and you bent over the desk and he would swing the paddle with both hands.He was paddled about 5 times or so and never went back after the last time.He said that the principal told him every time you come back its going to be harder then the last. ..."

see also:
http://nospank.net/paddler3.wmv

The second time I watched this three-second video I noticed the giant teacher was wielding the paddle like a baseball bat with two hands; the third time I noticed the gigantically loud "smack" as the poor kid must have felt the teacher was trying to send him flying into the grandstands. The sneak picture taker stopped sneaking after one whack; we don't know how many hits the child had to endure (he or she will remember for the rest of his or her life). Rape looks like a fair connotation to me.

Denis Drew said...

2 paddling rape comparisons BY THE VICTIMS (2 of many):

http://www.nospank.net/field.htm
http://www.nospank.net/now2.htm